Should we be pressing the 'upset alert' button for Arizona @ Oregon?
Heading into the Friday game between the Arizona Wildcats and the Oregon Ducks, you'd think that I'd be worried. As an Arizona fan, I should be deeply concerned that the Wildcats will suffer a humiliating blow-out loss on national television. With the two painful losses against Stanford and USC still fresh, and all Rose Bowl hopes dashed, there seems little to be excited about heading into this game. That is, of course, if you have a short memory.
Those with better memories will remember something that the other Pac-10 teams have known and feared for years now. The Wildcats play their best football when everyone counts them out. Arizona has recorded at least one major upset each season under Mike Stoops thus far. The game against Oregon would represent the only scenario where that could take place in the 2010 regular season.
Don't think the Wildcats can do it? Ask some teams from years past about that one. 2004, #20 Arizona State. 2005, #7 UCLA. 2006, #8 Cal. 2007, #2 Oregon. 2008, #17 BYU. 2009, #20 USC. All were projected to win against what were perceived as inferior Arizona teams. All lost.
There are a few more reasons to start thinking about pushing the 'upset alert' button, starting with the fact that Arizona has nothing to lose.
1. With the Rose Bowl out of the picture for the Wildcats, they are simply playing for Bowl positioning and national ranking now. In fact, assuming the Wildcats defeat the lowly Sun Devils next week, defeating Oregon will actually hurt Arizona's bowl positioning. With Oregon eliminated from the national championship race, the Ducks would go to the Rose Bowl, and Arizona would fall a spot further down the Pac-10 bowl list. With a win over the Ducks, the Wildcats would likely go from playing in the Alamo Bowl, to the Holiday Bowl. (It's confusing, I know. The Alamo Bowl is now the #2 Pac-10 bowl game, and the Holiday Bowl is the #3.)
So, you've got a team with nothing to lose, and wounded pride from two consecutive losses coming into your stadium looking to spoil your hopes of a national championship. And if they lose, they're actually better off than if they win. Sounds scary to me.
2. The 'Civil War'. I don't care how many times Oregon head coach Chip Kelly talks about focusing on one game at a time. Nobody can convince me that those Oregon players aren't looking ahead to the rivalry game next week against the Oregon State Beavers. That is one of the most bitter rivalries in the nation, and Oregon must be frothing at the mouth to dish out some punishment to the Beavers.
3. Arizona matches up better than any team Oregon has faced so far. Arizona has faced two option-style teams this season already, and had the luxury of winning while learning the most important defensive factor when facing an option offense. Discipline. Stick to your man. Don't leave him, ever. If you don't move over to help someone else, you won't bite on the fakes. True, the option teams that Arizona has faced were less than imposing. However, that simply allowed the Wildcats to learn from their mistakes and correct them in-game. Not on film the following week.
And don't forget those monster DEs, Ricky Elmore and Brooks Reed. They'll have something to say about that big, scary, Oregon rushing attack. If they're successful in limiting the outside runs, Oregon will be forced to pass more than they like to. Sound familiar? Then you probably watched the Iowa game, and watched Arizona completely shut down the run, and force the Hawkeyes to pass much more than they liked to. In fact, forcing opposing offenses to pass more often has been the best aspect of the Arizona defense all season long.
I have no doubt that Oregon will be game-planning for this, and possibly working a few more passing plays into that wierd flash-card rotation. But I don't see how a QB that passes mostly from play action will be able to handle being a pocket QB. Again, this only works if Arizona shuts down the outside runs.
I'm not saying Arizona fans should start beating their chests and predict an Arizona blow-out victory. Far from it. I expect a hard-fought, close game. I'm just saying that all of the ingredients are there for major, albeit close, victory for the Arizona Wildcats.
Bear Down, Wildcat fans. Beat the Ducks!
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Meh.
Arizona has a chance because of their athletic defense and their ability to spread the field and pick up short gains at will.
But, if Oregon were to lose, I can guarantee it won’t be because they are looking forward to the Civil War.
The CW might as well be a year away.
Believe me, this close to the prize, and after a bye, they’re not looking past a damn thing. And certainly not one of the better defenses AND the top passing offense in the conference. They haven’t forgotten that UA was a top-10 team earlier in the season.
Now: Does any of it matter? Well, “that’s why they play the game.” The Ducks kind of sputtered into the bye. Their offense had lost its edge, players were banged up, and they had convinced themselves that they could “flip a switch” and put anybody away in the second half. And while nobody has proven they can SCORE much on the Ducks in the second, the team certainly didn’t pull away from Cal. OTOH they leveraged the last bye week, which was preceded by a lackluster effort at WSU, into a 60-13 annihilation of UCLA followed by a 21-point win at USC and a 39-point win against UW. So, we’ll just have to wait and see.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 22, 2010 9:54 PM PST reply actions
Maybe I Have Green - Tinted Glasses....
but as an Oregon fan I must say, I feel confident as the Ducks head into Friday night’s battle.
After a tenacious win at Berkeley (seems like every undefeated team has at least 1 close call against a conference rival) the Ducks were extremely fortunate to have a bye. Kelly and Co. will certainly have some new wrinkles to add – to the O, D and Spec teams. Players had some time to digest that game and again realize all it takes is 1 mediocre performance and dreams of Glendale vanish in an instant. Not to mention the crowd… The O Faithful will be happy to see their team back home and will as raucous as ever.
I don’t know if weather will be a factor. As I type this it is 17 degrees outside and getting colder (but no, it isn’t that frigid in Eugene) and weather says snow tonight and tomorrow in Eugene, but warming up to mid-30’s at gametime.
I expect Arizona to bring their ‘A’ game. Stoops is a fine coach and there is a lot of talent on your team. Maybe I’d be more concerned had the ‘Cats beat up U$C. I was at the OSU/U$C game Saturday night and the Trojans looked like they couldn’t wait to get home. Of course they played better against AZ, but still…
Sure to be a great game, whatever the outcome!
Realist
I’ve been very dissapointed in the Cats overall performance. Since the Iowa game the Cats have come out flat in almost every game. Especially at home! Then we get a few of our top players hurt and our steep hill became a mountain. I hope we use this crucial bye week to change the pace, but I’m not very optimistic going into this game. We do have that November spoiler thing going for us, but the way we’ve been playong compared to the dominating performance of the Ducks. I just don’t see it. I sure hope I’m wrong, but I’m a realist! BTW I will be talking a lot of smack if my Wildcats pull it off. This would be one of the biggest wins in UA history. A loss would be bitter sweet as I would like to see our conference improve as a whole and see a fellow PAC team win or at least go to the NCG. BEAR DOWN!
CATS CAN WIN!
We should all really look at who the Ducks have beat so far this year.. Other then Stanford the Ducks have yet to play a defense that can match them. Arizona can do that and then some.. Our defence line is one of the best in the NCAA and with Reed and Elmore coming fast on the out side that play action pass and fade pass that the Ducks live on will come to a complete stop.. Then with Flowers, Hall and the rest of the UA back field playing man the Cats should cut down on the school yard passing Oregon loves to do. Now the UA O is very high powered and has provin to be a problem for many defenses and provin with the Stanford game the ducks back field is very weak.. So with all that the Cats and Ducks game will be very good and a close one.. GO CATS!!
Some valid points are made here.
Congratulations Arizona fans, you and your football program have succeeded in scarring the living $#*@ out of a fan base. I think I speak for most Oregon camps, that this is one of our biggest tests of the season to date. Stanford was a great game, and a competitive game up until Oregon put its foot on the pedal and blew past them with 40+ unanswered points. But Arizona brings a different type of attacking, athletic defense that should put the scare into Oregon’s offense.
The matchup, really favors U of A. Those two defensive ends will be able to control a lot of the lateral movement that Oregon likes to achieve, using the edge to go north. The only problem for Oregon, is that the ability of CAL to play sound gap control and solid man-to-man coverage will be duplicated by the Cats speedy defense. Oregon will have to exploit one on one matchups, and that may be tough.
The game will played in the 30s, and it’s not like Oregon’s roster is full of Oregonians or guys from the Pacific Northwest. Oregon’s backfield is nearly all from Texas, and they don’t like the cold just as much as Arizona’s roster of guys from AZ, TX, and southern CA. Now, Oregon’s guys live up in the colder, crisper air so they are more used to it. Reason I bring it up, is the track will be slower. Oregon’s speed advantage (very much mitigated by U of A’s own speed) will be alleviated some.
I don’t worry so much about Oregon’s defense. Honestly.
Oregon’s defense has played well all year, and Nick Alliotti’s, Oregon’s D Coordinator has done an excellent job of making proper adjustments during the game. Oregon fans give him so much crud, but he’s recruited some blistering fast athletes who play an extremely physical brand of defense. UA will get their yards through the air, and will have some success on the ground, but I think UA’s offense will be surprised at Oregon’s playmaking ability to be ball hawks and it’s fitness level in that cool air come 3rd qt and 4th qt.
Go Ducks, and for those venturing up from Tucson or Phoenix to Eugene/Portland, have a great trip. Enjoy the fall colors of Oregon.
Friends dont let friends go to Oregon State, hell, even root for them.
by WashingtonDCduck on Nov 23, 2010 12:01 PM PST reply actions
NO WORRIES!
All I wanna add to any of this is UA is goin to go duck hunting..
Bowl Games
A win against Oregon would not hurt Arizona’s chioce of bowl games, and might actually help by some fluke of BCS mathematics.
The Rose Bowl this year (and this year only) must take the top non-AQ team (Boise State or TCU) if they lose the top PAC-10 team to the Nat Champ game. Assuming Stanford and Oregon win their remaining games, Stanford will be shut out of the Rose Bowl and will take the #2 bowl game spot, giving Arizona the #3 spot (assuming it beats ASU). The only way to avoid this, is for Stanford to finish in the top-4 in the final BCS rankings and thereby earn an automotic at-large bid into another BCS game.
Stanford is currently ranked 6th in the BCS rankings behind Oregon, Auburn, Boise State, TCU and LSU, and it needs 2 of those teams to lose to climb that ladder. Boise State and TCU will win out (sorry wolf pack). That means Stanford needs two of the remaining teams (Oregon, Auburn and LSU) to lose. If Arizona beats Oregon and either LSU loses to Arkansas or Auburn loses to Alabama, then Stanford will likely finish 4th (ahead of Oregon) in the final BCS rankings, but Oregon would win the tie-breaker against Stanford for the conference title. The result would be: Oregon – Rose Bowl, Stanford – BCS At-Large, Arizona – #2 Pac-10 bowl game (Alamo).
Of course it’s all academic, because the Ducks are going to crush the Wildcats at Autzen. I just didn’t want you to think that the game didn’t matter.
If you really want your head to explode...
consider what will happen to the BCS rankings if Oregon, Auburn and LSU all lose their games this weekend…
by SouthCoastDuck on Nov 23, 2010 1:16 PM PST up reply actions
It's actually more complicated than that.
If a non-AQ team makes it to the national championship game, the Rose Bowl is not required to offer a spot to a non-AQ team. There is no way the Rose Bowl committee will take either TCU or Boise St. over the traditional Pac-10/ Big-10 match-up. So, if Oregon were to play TCU in the national championship, it would be Stanford in the Rose Bowl, and likely Arizona in the Alamo Bowl.
And make no mistake, if Oregon loses either of their two remaining games, a non-AQ will be in the national championship game.
Patrick Evans (uofafanatic)
HEY DUCKS! GET READT TO LOSE!
I think the last time UA played a ranked #1 or 2 Ducks team UA beat them.. just throwing it out there..
You going to storm the field again!!! I’d wait until the final whistle before you go running onto the field, dont make an ass of yourself on national TV and have ESPN/ABC’s commentators taking cracks at your students.
You beat a Dennis Dixon’less’ team with terrible backup QB’s. Nice job.
Enjoy Tucson.
Friends dont let friends go to Oregon State, hell, even root for them.
by WashingtonDCduck on Nov 24, 2010 8:01 AM PST up reply actions
Actually, If I remember correctly
You guys had Dixon to start the game, but he was knocked out by the UofA defense. And yes terrible backups played the rest of the game, but hey you weren’t without Dix
Back when I was picking beans in Guatemala, we used to make fresh coffee, right off the trees I mean. That was good. This is shit but, hey, I'm in a police station.
by TouchdownColts on Nov 24, 2010 8:48 AM PST up reply actions
He was knocked out by...
a non-contact injury.
"We do not play the Little Sisters of the Poor." - president of "the" Ohio State University.
I am a Wildcat fan
but I don’t see an upset in the cards…..
while we have an above average DL, the LB’s and back four are inconsistent at best and if they aren’t filling the gaps, well I expect to see at least three to five big runs of about 15 to 30 yards and maybe one big back breaker of a sprint for a score.
The Az offence is rhythm driven, pretty sure everyone knows this by now, hence, you crowd the LOS early and break up the cheapies that AZ likes to run to establish themselves, i.e. the one yard receiver screens and slot receiver slant routes and you’ve pretty much got AZ in a panic and Foles never establishes a comfort level, which is when he’s dangerous with the deep ball. Unless AZ changes their stripes and throws a few RB screens or a TE stretch route into the mix or even (God forbid) just attack downfield instead of the LOS stuff, the the Ducks should be able to control the game pretty easily imho. I have yet to see the Cats do anything out of character the entire time that Stoops has run the program so I expect that it’ll be a big one for the Ducks, like 49-17 or the like.
I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused....
Sorry.. no upset
Arizona has a good team, but this Oregon Ducks team is coming off a bye and will be super focused to get their offense back on track. Chip Kelly is a true leader and there is no way he will let his team lose this week.
Arizona comes off a bye as well
Just saying there is no advantage there.
Back when I was picking beans in Guatemala, we used to make fresh coffee, right off the trees I mean. That was good. This is shit but, hey, I'm in a police station.
by TouchdownColts on Nov 24, 2010 8:50 AM PST up reply actions
Kelly won't allow a let down
This will be the last game at Autzen for the seniors so they, in particular, should be very focused on the job at hand. Win the Day is about concentrating on the present.
The Civil War happens next week. This week is all about taking care of business at home and continuing the march, one game at a time, to the NCG.
Brrrrr....its really, really cold in Eugene.
Eugene is expecting freezing rain for the Arizona game. Hope Coach stoops can figure out a way to simulate that by friday…..
Freezing rain? Sweet!
It’ll be pretty difficult to run in that, without slipping and falling. Advantage: Arizona.
Patrick Evans (uofafanatic)
Ducks practice in the rain every day...
Its okay for ‘Cats though. Hypothermia won’t kick in until the second half…
Actually the Ducks have pretty much practiced inside this whole week.
Probably do walk through practices in Autzen the next couple days. But other than that I really don’t see weather being an advantage either way cause most of the guys on our roster are from warm weather climates. I really think this game comes down to Oregon’s O-line against Zona’s D line and linebackers. Whoever wins that matchup wins in my opinion. I think this game will be a battle to the end much like last years game was.
by NICKPAPAGEORGIOTHEDUCK on Nov 23, 2010 7:28 PM PST up reply actions
Well stated.
That will easily be the most important battle of the night. Watch out for Arizona DT Justin Washington, he’s the real deal.
Patrick Evans (uofafanatic)
by uofafanatic on Nov 23, 2010 9:58 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, I just heard his name today for the first time.
He seems like a heck of a player. Unfortunately I’m in med school right now so I haven’t been able to follow the entire Pac-10 like I used to. I am rather familiar with all of your guys’ skill position players on offense but not as much so with your D. Who would you say is the leader of your secondary?
by NICKPAPAGEORGIOTHEDUCK on Nov 24, 2010 4:25 PM PST up reply actions
Well....
It was supposed to be CB Trevin Wade. But, that’s obviously not taking place. As far as who has been the most productive? I’d have to say S Joseph Perkins. (52 tackles, 2 INTs) You won’t hear his name often, but he’s the most consistent, and the most productive of the DBs, and as a Senior he likely has the ear of the other secondary players.
Keep your eyes on CB Shaquille Richardson when he subs in. He’s actually been playing at a much higher level than the starter, Trevin Wade.
Patrick Evans (uofafanatic)
this is one game
I’ll be glad to watch from home while recovering from my Turkey Coma
by SouthCoastDuck on Nov 23, 2010 8:07 PM PST reply actions 1 recs

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