/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/30836775/480970723.0.jpg)
I join Ben at the 1 hour, 6 minute minute mark. Here's the link to the postcast, which you might need to click through to skip ahead (somehow the embed is erroring out).
Filed under:
Ben Larson of The Talking Cheese Heads had me on his podcast today to preview Arizona and Wisconsin.